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I gave it a couple tries. I'm gonna need more. 7/8 is a bitch.
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I can’t play drums to save my life. Moving my legs independent of my arms is too difficult for me. I already have timing issues anyway, and it’s been exacerbated by not playing rock for the last 8 years.
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And when I say I don’t count I don’t mean because I’m so good, I mean because I’m so stupid. I don’t know what time sig I’m playing in most times unless it’s 4/4 or 3/4 and even with a triplet feel I get confused as fuck. So anyways, I gave up on trying to figure that out a long time ago lol
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liv_rong wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:18 pm And when I say I don’t count I don’t mean because I’m so good, I mean because I’m so stupid. I don’t know what time sig I’m playing in most times unless it’s 4/4 or 3/4 and even with a triplet feel I get confused as fuck. So anyways, I gave up on trying to figure that out a long time ago lol
Same. I can play all kinds of weird time sigs if I just play it. But I don't know what I'm playing or how to count it. Someone has to tell me "hey that was 5/9" or some dumb shit like that. And then I'm like "well fuck that, back to 4/4".
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I don't find myself just going "1234567" over and over as I'm playing, but I've at least got to count it out a few times to get the feel of it. I'm not counting while I'm playing, just as a learning aid to help my brain grab hold of the groove (or lack thereof, in the case of 7/8...that shit doesn't groove at all).
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I once made a song that was 3/4 by accident and it was actually harder to go back to 4/4 because of the way the vocals were done. I actually had to count to do a 4/4 song...
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Greg_L wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 pm
liv_rong wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:18 pm And when I say I don’t count I don’t mean because I’m so good, I mean because I’m so stupid. I don’t know what time sig I’m playing in most times unless it’s 4/4 or 3/4 and even with a triplet feel I get confused as fuck. So anyways, I gave up on trying to figure that out a long time ago lol
Same. I can play all kinds of weird time sigs if I just play it. But I don't know what I'm playing or how to count it. Someone has to tell me "hey that was 5/9" or some dumb shit like that. And then I'm like "well fuck that, back to 4/4".
I forget, did we tell you all the weird sig changes for the Regdar and Lipstick songs you've done, or did you just play through them blindly?

Spoiler Alert had that one song with the dropped half beat after the choruses.
Lipstick 2 had the song that the chorus was in 7/8 or something for no reason.
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vomitHatSteve wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:31 am

I forget, did we tell you all the weird sig changes for the Regdar and Lipstick songs you've done, or did you just play through them blindly?
I just played through them. I honestly have no idea what yall's time sigs were. I just play what I think needs to be played.
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Fair, well now you know that you've recorded a handful of songs with 7/8 passages as well as... I guess 4.5/4?
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vomitHatSteve wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:30 am Fair, well now you know that you've recorded a handful of songs with 7/8 passages as well as... I guess 4.5/4?
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Greg_L wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:29 pm I am a Prog God!
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Getting closer on this. Won’t be great, will just feel good to get through it semi cleanly
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liv_rong wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:44 pm Getting closer on this. Won’t be great, will just feel good to get through it semi cleanly
Take my word for it: my attempt will make yours look like one of the finest examples of drumming ever to grace the planet :D

Here it is, in all of it's glory, the full 8 minutes of a pretty bad drummer trying to keep up with this math rock track:
20210926 math rock drums-001.mp3
My favorite part is me trying desperately to feel the 7/8 on the first go-around with the ride. I got lucky and came at the right time, at least :D

If I kept at it, I could probably do it maybe 5-10% better (believe it or not, this is 120% better than my first attempts, as measured by a registered scientician). But I'm still full of mental mistakes like dragging, rushing, losing the bass guitar, and forgetting where I'm at. And physical mistakes like whacking my sticks together as they're on their way to different places, getting a rimshot on a tom, or just plain wearing myself out due to bad technique.

This was a lot of fun though, despite my complaining :) Someday, I might be able to do something like this cleanly and repeatable!

*edit* there's something goofy with the stereo balance of my overheads...I must have left a pad engaged on one of the mics or something...everything is kind of happening over on the right.
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@Tadpui ill listen later when I’m home
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Tadpui wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:30 pm
liv_rong wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:44 pm Getting closer on this. Won’t be great, will just feel good to get through it semi cleanly
Take my word for it: my attempt will make yours look like one of the finest examples of drumming ever to grace the planet :D

Here it is, in all of it's glory, the full 8 minutes of a pretty bad drummer trying to keep up with this math rock track:

20210926 math rock drums-001.mp3

My favorite part is me trying desperately to feel the 7/8 on the first go-around with the ride. I got lucky and came at the right time, at least :D

If I kept at it, I could probably do it maybe 5-10% better (believe it or not, this is 120% better than my first attempts, as measured by a registered scientician). But I'm still full of mental mistakes like dragging, rushing, losing the bass guitar, and forgetting where I'm at. And physical mistakes like whacking my sticks together as they're on their way to different places, getting a rimshot on a tom, or just plain wearing myself out due to bad technique.

This was a lot of fun though, despite my complaining :) Someday, I might be able to do something like this cleanly and repeatable!

*edit* there's something goofy with the stereo balance of my overheads...I must have left a pad engaged on one of the mics or something...everything is kind of happening over on the right.
Nice job there, man! I feel like your dynamics have gotten better since I last listened to anything you've done. I've been kind of absent for like a year or so. I like the approach, and it is tight, much tighter than mine will be! Drums sound great too! Honestly now I am afraid to keep working on mine lol
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liv_rong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:37 pm Nice job there, man! I feel like your dynamics have gotten better since I last listened to anything you've done. I've been kind of absent for like a year or so. I like the approach, and it is tight, much tighter than mine will be! Drums sound great too! Honestly now I am afraid to keep working on mine lol
Hey thanks a lot, man! I appreciate the compliments :)

I've heard enough of your drumming to know that you'll nail this one pretty dang well. You've just got the innate feel that only a bona fide drummer has, so I can only imagine that you'll smash it.
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Here it is, as you guys may remember I never have strived for perfection but that's ok with me, I'm just having fun.

A bunch of little mistakes here, rushes etc, but I am just happy I was able to make it through the thing. And I got to use double bass here twice, actually this is why I got the pedal! I tried to utilize it also at the end but it ended up shitty so I gave up!

Also I never watched the video to see the counting until just now and it made me think I should have played the 3/4 section a little different, I basically played it in 4/4 but it worked out anyways :lollers: :spacepalm:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yx7kjj7q9gb4r ... e.mp3?dl=0
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@liv_rong nice job! I like the hi-hat work throughout, and all of the little bits that add interest all along the way. That's one area that I'd love to develop more as a drummer, but I just don't have the creativity built up yet. It all sounds pretty tight to me!

I also ended up ditching the video after my first few nights of trying. I'm running remote desktop to my downstairs computer from the living room upstairs, and the Wi-Fi connection wasn't good enough for the video to keep up. So I just recorded the audio through a loopback into Reaper, set up some markers in the project to remind me where the changes were, and ended up faring much better on my next several attempts without the visual distractions.

This was fun, we should do more of these!
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Tadpui wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:12 pm @liv_rong nice job! I like the hi-hat work throughout, and all of the little bits that add interest all along the way. That's one area that I'd love to develop more as a drummer, but I just don't have the creativity built up yet. It all sounds pretty tight to me!

I also ended up ditching the video after my first few nights of trying. I'm running remote desktop to my downstairs computer from the living room upstairs, and the Wi-Fi connection wasn't good enough for the video to keep up. So I just recorded the audio through a loopback into Reaper, set up some markers in the project to remind me where the changes were, and ended up faring much better on my next several attempts without the visual distractions.

This was fun, we should do more of these!
Thanks, man!

Yeah! Would love to do more!
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