Is there a particular name for this style?

[Greg_L]

I don't know if there's a fancy drum technical name for it. I'm sure there is. I'd just call it a "roll".

You can replicate it with MIDI by making the quarter notes "harder" with velocity. That's how a real drummer does it - he hits harder on the notes he wants accented so it isn't just a straight monotone drum roll. Have the kick stomping away also on the quarter notes.

Or wait for a better drummer to explain it.

[Lt. Bob]

I don't know if there's a fancy drum technical name for it. I'm sure there is. I'd just call it a "roll".

You can replicate it with MIDI by making the quarter notes "harder" with velocity. That's how a real drummer does it - he hits harder on the notes he wants accented so it isn't just a straight monotone drum roll. Have the kick stomping away also on the quarter notes.

yeppers ..... one way to maybe visualize it would be the New Orleans 2nd line .... what second line actually is is a matching band cadence but with accents on the 'and of 1 and then the 'and' of 3 ..... ..... so the snare is playing all eighth notes but hitting those accents harder like greg said.
In 2nd line the kick would mirror those accents but in rock stuff the kick simply punds out the 1/4 notes , again ... as greg said.
And, of course, the accents don't have to be on the 'and' of 1 and 3 .... that's just for 2nd line.
They can be wherever the hell you want so there's really a lot of room to do things with that technique.

I'm actually saying the same thing greg did but phrasing it a little differently .... plus we louisianainians get to call it 2nd line which makes us cool!

lol

But think in terms of a marching drum section playing a cadence ... that's the basic concept.

[rammer24]

Yep. Greg and Bob got it.

He's playing 16th notes in those parts, though. There's no real technical term for it, other than a "16th note roll" I guess.

[rammer24]

It's one of the harder things to make sound human when programming because most fake drums don't change "timbre" when they change volume. So, even though you can program the drums to have accents, it might always sound sterile since the hits will still "sound" the same, even if they're not all the same volume. Fake drums have come a long way, so I might be wrong. But I do remember in my days of MIDI drums, that this kind of thing was hard to make sound convincing.

As far as a real drummer playing, it's totally possible to do this kind of thing precisely and put the accents exactly where they need to go.

[rammer24]

On a side note, and not that important...I've never understood what the big deal is about these guys. I remember that the Pumpkins were HUGE!!!! And to me it all sounded rather mediocre and far from ground breaking. Just one guy's opinion. Having said that, I wish I was half of succesfull as they were/are.

[rayc]

I saw the pumpkins live in Sydney when they were huge and they were very disappointing - big bald star in the middle with his big star T shirt so you didn't miss the message and they just angried/hammered through their songs with scant regard for any of the nuance I thought I'd heard on the albums. I bought three albums and gave up.

[Greg_L]

It's one of the harder things to make sound human when programming because most fake drums don't change "timbre" when they change volume. So, even though you can program the drums to have accents, it might always sound sterile since the hits will still "sound" the same, even if they're not all the same volume. Fake drums have come a long way, so I might be wrong. But I do remember in my days of MIDI drums, that this kind of thing was hard to make sound convincing.

As far as a real drummer playing, it's totally possible to do this kind of thing precisely and put the accents exactly where they need to go.

I think this is important. A real drum doesn't have the same voice when you hit it harder and softer. A snare drum in particular will sound wildly different from hit to hit depending on how you lay into it. Soft hits sound warm and subtle, hard hits are tight and cracky. It's not just louder and quieter versions of the same sound like what I think happens with drum samples.

So....maybe use different samples for the soft vs harder hits.

[Greg_L]

yeppers ..... one way to maybe visualize it would be the New Orleans 2nd line .... what second line actually is is a matching band cadence but with accents on the 'and of 1 and then the 'and' of 3 ..... ..... so the snare is playing all eighth notes but hitting those accents harder like greg said.
In 2nd line the kick would mirror those accents but in rock stuff the kick simply punds out the 1/4 notes , again ... as greg said.
And, of course, the accents don't have to be on the 'and' of 1 and 3 .... that's just for 2nd line.
They can be wherever the hell you want so there's really a lot of room to do things with that technique.

I'm actually saying the same thing greg did but phrasing it a little differently .... plus we louisianainians get to call it 2nd line which makes us cool!

lol

But think in terms of a marching drum section playing a cadence ... that's the basic concept.

Armistice don't know nuthin bout no jazz funeral!

[Lt. Bob]

Armistice don't know nuthin bout no jazz funeral!

lol ...... definitely how I wanna leave

[JD01]

Armistice, are you using EZ or Superior? Your best best for making a long roll like that sound real is to pick a long roll out of their fill library, copy and paste it to make it longer and then adjust is at necessary.