NEW GEAR!! Buying anything?

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liv_rong wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:14 pm Holy shit @Tadpui ! Awesome! I don’t know wtf any of that means, but it sure sounds nerdy and baller!
You nailed it. It is exactly nerdy AND baller :D And the best news of all is that it works smoothly and sounds terrific! I'm still wrestling with the "I don't deserve it because I'm just some guy in his basement" sentiment. But damn. It's friggin sweet.
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Tadpui wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:34 pm I'm still wrestling with the "I don't deserve it because I'm just some guy in his basement" sentiment. But damn. It's friggin sweet.
I think like that about all my gear haha! But who cares, if it makes your happy then it’s worth it!
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Is that your dining table in the background?
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Armistice wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:41 pm Is that your dining table in the background?
Yeah :) The wife actually likes the drums in the living room. I'm not so sure she likes all of the microphones, cables and stands though...
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So I bought a 2nd ART P48 patchbay. They're good, cheap patchbays from my limited experience. I like the one that I've had for years, and I'm out of space on mine so I bought a 2nd one. It's always been solid, the jacks are robust and I just like the overall "feel" of it.

But then...while it was in transit...I discovered the Samson S-Patch Plus patchbay. It's another cheap but well-regarded patchbay, and it solves the two main issues that I've had with my ART. It not only offers a "through" mode without having all 4 jacks of any given stack occupied by cables, but it has a 3-way switch on the *front* of the patchbay that allows you to switch between normal/half-normal/through. That's the main pain in the ass about the ART, is that the normal/half-normal switch is on the back of the unit. You know, the exact place that you're trying to avoid if you actually purchased a patchbay? Yeah, that's where ART chose to put the only switches on the unit. On the back. Where the spiders and dust bunnies live. The place where you can't actually reach.

So now I'm torn. I might just return my new P48, sell my old one, and buy 2 of the Samsons. It's a silly predicament to be in.
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Tadpui wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:14 am So I bought a 2nd ART P48 patchbay. They're good, cheap patchbays from my limited experience. I like the one that I've had for years, and I'm out of space on mine so I bought a 2nd one. It's always been solid, the jacks are robust and I just like the overall "feel" of it.

But then...while it was in transit...I discovered the Samson S-Patch Plus patchbay. It's another cheap but well-regarded patchbay, and it solves the two main issues that I've had with my ART. It not only offers a "through" mode without having all 4 jacks of any given stack occupied by cables, but it has a 3-way switch on the *front* of the patchbay that allows you to switch between normal/half-normal/through. That's the main pain in the ass about the ART, is that the normal/half-normal switch is on the back of the unit. You know, the exact place that you're trying to avoid if you actually purchased a patchbay? Yeah, that's where ART chose to put the only switches on the unit. On the back. Where the spiders and dust bunnies live. The place where you can't actually reach.

So now I'm torn. I might just return my new P48, sell my old one, and buy 2 of the Samsons. It's a silly predicament to be in.
I'm telling ya, I've bitched about it before, but these fucking companies need to quit putting the stuff we need on the back of fucking rack gear. The whole point of that equipment is to hook it up and bolt it down and never ever go behind it ever again forever.
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Greg_L wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:24 am I'm telling ya, I've bitched about it before, but these fucking companies need to quit putting the stuff we need on the back of fucking rack gear. The whole point of that equipment is to hook it up and bolt it down and never ever go behind it ever again forever.
Exactly! That should just be Design 101 for rack gear. The back is off limits for anything except inputs and outputs.

I've got a guitar pedal that has an adjustment pot...inside the pedal. You have to take the damned pedal apart in order to adjust it. I mean, if it's worth adjusting, drill a friggin hole in the chassis and put a knob on it!
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Tadpui wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:03 am

Exactly! That should just be Design 101 for rack gear. The back is off limits for anything except inputs and outputs.

I've got a guitar pedal that has an adjustment pot...inside the pedal. You have to take the damned pedal apart in order to adjust it. I mean, if it's worth adjusting, drill a friggin hole in the chassis and put a knob on it!
Yeah man. What's with the fucking dip switches hidden inside of pedals? If you can put something on a dip switch, you can put it on a mini toggle outside of the pedal. Jackasses.
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Greg_L wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:06 am
Tadpui wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:03 am Exactly! That should just be Design 101 for rack gear. The back is off limits for anything except inputs and outputs.
I've got a guitar pedal that has an adjustment pot...inside the pedal. You have to take the damned pedal apart in order to adjust it. I mean, if it's worth adjusting, drill a friggin hole in the chassis and put a knob on it!
Yeah man. What's with the fucking dip switches hidden inside of pedals? If you can put something on a dip switch, you can put it on a mini toggle outside of the pedal. Jackasses.
Weird eh? It appeals to folk though...in a big way.
I like simple, set n forget stuff and I'm not inclined to buy something if it doesn't do what I need/want straight out of the box with three knobs or less.
BUT...folk'll but a Squire strat to turn it into a PRS BBQ skewer so internal pots n dip switches are probably small beans...I wonder if those internal tweak machines come with a WARRANTY VOIDED IF BACK REMOVED type sticker.
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Didn't some of the weird Les Pauls from a few years ago come with dip switches inside the guitar?
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rayc wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:45 am
Weird eh? It appeals to folk though...in a big way.
I like simple, set n forget stuff and I'm not inclined to buy something if it doesn't do what I need/want straight out of the box with three knobs or less.
BUT...folk'll but a Squire strat to turn it into a PRS BBQ skewer so internal pots n dip switches are probably small beans...I wonder if those internal tweak machines come with a WARRANTY VOIDED IF BACK REMOVED type sticker.
I got no problem with switches on things. But if the designer of a product thinks there is a feature that needs to be on a switch, then put the fucking switch where people can switch it.
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JD01 wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:01 am Didn't some of the weird Les Pauls from a few years ago come with dip switches inside the guitar?
Yup. Great design feature. :lollers2:
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well if you put the switches outside then first, purists will complain there are any switches and others will complain about "too many choices"

personally I've always thought that someone that can't remember what a couple of switches do is too dumb to not look up and drown when it rains.

My own 'hate' is pedals with NO controls outside and all settings have to be made internally.
I've seen several .... the claim is you can't accidently move the knobs with your feet.
my question is what the hell are you doing with your feet that you'd move knobs
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My biggest pet peeve with pedals are the ones that have no labeling or description of what it is. Cute names, kitschy pics, fucking dumb.

JHS might be the worst. What the actual fuck is this?
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well it must be a fuzz

The Pi symbol is obviously a Muff flavor and I assume the triangle is referring to a Gilmore type of fuzz .... prolly a different muff variety.
And the bird is prolly a Wren & Cuff muff ...... the logo looks like a muffuletta sandwich so I'm gonna say it's various muff clones ...... now lemme go see if the old guy is right.
quick google .....
Yeppers .... wasn't hard.

And it's just not hard to read the product description before you buy it and therefore you know what it does and really, the graphics explain the features just fine as I just proved by figuring it out from just the graphics.

As for remembering what each setting does, that comes under my heading of "if you can't remember a few things then you have a mental deficiency" theory.
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Lt. Bob wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:25 pm well if you put the switches outside then first, purists will complain there are any switches and others will complain about "too many choices"

personally I've always thought that someone that can't remember what a couple of switches do is too dumb to not look up and drown when it rains.

My own 'hate' is pedals with NO controls outside and all settings have to be made internally.
I've seen several .... the claim is you can't accidently move the knobs with your feet.
my question is what the hell are you doing with your feet that you'd move knobs
What aren't I doing with my feet! (Seriously, I usually play barefoot, and I have adjusted knobs with my toes)
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No fuck all that. Just label the goddamn thing.

And muffalettas are round goddammit. That pic is clearly a sub or a poboy. :mad:
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And what about this? Yall decipher what the hell this thing is without looking it up. I don't know what it is.

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Greg_L wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:42 pm My biggest pet peeve with pedals are the ones that have no labeling or description of what it is. Cute names, kitschy pics, fucking dumb.

JHS might be the worst. What the actual fuck is this?
I've actually got that pedal :)

At least on that one, the symbols correlate to the style of Big Muff circuit that's selected. Those old Muff pedals became known by the variations of the graphics on them at the time. So Ram's Head, Red Star, Triangle, Civil War, etc. are nicknames given to them based on the era they were manufactured. With that in mind, you can kind of see what you're selecting.

But I get what you're saying. The ones that annoy me are the cutesy names for parameters, or any non-descriptive knob label. The Crossroads "Cntrl 1" and "Cntrl 2" knobs come to mind.
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Tadpui wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:32 pm

I've actually got that pedal :)

At least on that one, the symbols correlate to the style of Big Muff circuit that's selected. Those old Muff pedals became known by the variations of the graphics on them at the time. So Ram's Head, Red Star, Triangle, Civil War, etc. are nicknames given to them based on the era they were manufactured. With that in mind, you can kind of see what you're selecting.

But I get what you're saying. The ones that annoy me are the cutesy names for parameters, or any non-descriptive knob label. The Crossroads "Cntrl 1" and "Cntrl 2" knobs come to mind.
Okay fair enough. I'm not a fuzz guy. I don't own any and don't like fuzz. So I'm ignorant on that stuff. My own fault.

But what's the "tilt" supposed to do on that crayon pedal I posted just above? What is that pedal?
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