The Starving Vegan Rescue Squad

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Greg_L wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:10 pm
vomitHatSteve wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:05 pm One conflict I've often had with veganism over vegetarianism, is that the former often seems much more obsessed with rules for rules' sake.

I have one vegan friend who said he probably wouldn't eat magic mushrooms because they usually grow on cow droppings. You have other vegans who won't eat honey despite modern beekeeping being quite humane and bees being so incredibly necessary to the entire food chain.

Of course, my hot take is that the most ethical diet is freeganism. It's far worse to allow an animal's death to go to waste by letting its meat be thrown out than to kill the animal in the first place!
Right to all of that. The honey thing is hilarious to me. Vegans won't eat fucking honey. A bee doesn't have to die to vomit up some honey. They just do it.

I'm good friends with a guy who doesn't eat meat. He'll eat a plate of bacon or chicken though if it means it's not getting thrown away. To him if the animal died for food, for whatever reason, it needs to be eaten. Wasting that animal's death is worse than the death itself. I'm totally fine with that logic.
Obviously a lot of meat eaters don't share the same "an animal shouldn't die in vain" stance though.

I cannot tell you the number of times I have seen someone refuse to eat a steak because it was overcooked.

And I am not talking well done when ordered medium rare. I mean just barely one temp over.

I am an omnivore, but have dabbled with being a vegan and vegetarian, mainly for health reasons.

I happen to think the dairy and egg industry may be crueler than the meat industry.

And I have always found it interesting that most people would never let another woman breast feed their child but will feed them the milk from a cow.
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musicturtle wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:46 pm

Obviously a lot of meat eaters don't share the same "an animal shouldn't die in vain" stance though.

I cannot tell you the number of times I have seen someone refuse to eat a steak because it was overcooked.

And I am not talking well done when ordered medium rare. I mean just barely one temp over.

I am an omnivore, but have dabbled with being a vegan and vegetarian, mainly for health reasons.

I happen to think the dairy and egg industry may be crueler than the meat industry.

And I have always found it interesting that most people would never let another woman breast feed their child but will feed them the milk from a cow.
I know. People don't respect where their food actually comes from. People think they are the top of the food chain and everything is here to serve them. The reality is that nature would thrive better than ever without people around.
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Anyone who takes anything to the point of purist snobbery bullshit needs a kick in the gums. Whiskey guys who frown on anything not peated and smoked, asshats the like [mention]musicturtle[/mention] noted about not eating steak because it was a little too overdone, wine assholes. All of em. go die somewhere and let the rest of us like what we like.

it is fine and ok to like something and be REALLY passionate and enthusiastic about it, but it is another to make everyone around you feel like a piece of shit because they don't like what you like or whatever? Just makes you a scummy a human being. eat the fucking steak or stay home and make it absolutely perfect how you like it and save us from your purist bullshit. It's not even a matter of taste at that point.

I recently had a youtube video show up in my feed of two obnoxious whiskey assholes sitting with a "newb" lolling at him because he made a face Tasting some of them. As if they weren't newbs at one point and tasted something they didn't like!! get fucked. :cuckoo:

Sure buddy, You fell out of your mom with a taste for firecharred earth alcohol. right. :k:
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WhiskeyJack wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:29 pm Anyone who takes anything to the point of purist snobbery bullshit needs a kick in the gums. Whiskey guys who frown on anything not peated and smoked, asshats the like @musicturtle noted about not eating steak because it was a little too overdone, wine assholes. All of em. go die somewhere and let the rest of us like what we like.

it is fine and ok to like something and be REALLY passionate and enthusiastic about it, but it is another to make everyone around you feel like a piece of shit because they don't like what you like or whatever? Just makes you a scummy a human being. eat the fucking steak or stay home and make it absolutely perfect how you like it and save us from your purist bullshit. It's not even a matter of taste at that point.

I recently had a youtube video show up in my feed of two obnoxious whiskey assholes sitting with a "newb" lolling at him because he made a face Tasting some of them. As if they weren't newbs at one point and tasted something they didn't like!! get fucked. :cuckoo:

Sure buddy, You fell out of your mom with a taste for firecharred earth alcohol. right. :k:
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Whiskey and cigar guys rank right up there with vegans for insufferable douchebaggery.
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Greg_L wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:36 pm
WhiskeyJack wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:29 pm Anyone who takes anything to the point of purist snobbery bullshit needs a kick in the gums. Whiskey guys who frown on anything not peated and smoked, asshats the like @musicturtle noted about not eating steak because it was a little too overdone, wine assholes. All of em. go die somewhere and let the rest of us like what we like.

it is fine and ok to like something and be REALLY passionate and enthusiastic about it, but it is another to make everyone around you feel like a piece of shit because they don't like what you like or whatever? Just makes you a scummy a human being. eat the fucking steak or stay home and make it absolutely perfect how you like it and save us from your purist bullshit. It's not even a matter of taste at that point.

I recently had a youtube video show up in my feed of two obnoxious whiskey assholes sitting with a "newb" lolling at him because he made a face Tasting some of them. As if they weren't newbs at one point and tasted something they didn't like!! get fucked. :cuckoo:

Sure buddy, You fell out of your mom with a taste for firecharred earth alcohol. right. :k:
:lollers2: :lollers2: :lollers2:

Whiskey and cigar guys rank right up there with vegans for insufferable douchebaggery.
Dude. Around Christmas i made the mistake of following a few Scotch and bourbon makers i like on Instagram and then my feed was nothing but pictures of lame dudes wearing giant watches, posing with dick sized cigars in there mouth sitting in their shitty apartment posing with their "drams' like they were al fucking capone. :lollers2: :lollers2: THE WORST!!! GET IT OFF MY FEED!!!!

Is that the male equivalent to the old pics of girls 'showing off their new glasses" but really it's just boobs? :confused: :confused: Is it the same?
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WhiskeyJack wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:46 pm

Is that the male equivalent to the old pics of girls 'showing off their new glasses" but really it's just boobs? :confused: :confused: Is it the same?
I'll take boobs any day over whiskey douches with giant watches....err....timepieces.
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As aprt of a two year cycle of "camps" we used to take 11 and 12 year olds to a farm stay. We'd do a thing called "meet your meat" with the kids in the paddock feeding Angus cattle and discussing the life of such a creature on a farm and how all of that animal was used in ways to benefit us plus the fact that not eating/using those things wastes the life of the critter. That night we'd eat meat from that farm. Each year a couple of kids would take the veg option but the rest would eat the meat, but eat it all - no waste. It was usually the 2nd night of the camp - night one the scraps bins were pretty full, night two they were almost empty. Kids absorb those concepts well and can apply them with encouragement.
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All the veggies and vegans I know are totally normal and only mention their diet if you're cooking for them.

In my experience it's only carnivores with a fragile ego that seem to go on about vegans at length.

Vegetarianism and veganism are generally healthier for you, they're definitely healthier for the planet and they're way less cruel.
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I think more than the actual contents of the diet, as Ray's program showed, it's awareness of where your food comes from that's important.

I had a roommate go vegan after visiting Peru and seeing recently skinned sheep in a market. After that, his diet switched a huge emphasis on avocado. Now, I love some avocado, but I guarantee that calorie for calorie way more suffering - human and animal - goes into getting avos to TN than goes into a fresh sheep carcass at the local market.

I've met some veg folks who are totally cool about it (I learned how to make curry from an Indian dude who's vegetarian 363 days a year) and some who are obnoxious and Pharisaical (aforementioned mushrooms friend whose veganism was largely about his toxic relationship with his ex wife). I've noticed the ones who make a big deal about it tend to be the ones who just switched.
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Cool song, and I don't say this lightly as I am mostly vegetarian, partly vegan! Ha! I do appreciate the lyrics though, at least I could hear them and that is testament to your mixing. . . I am a lyrics fan, the rest is enhancement!
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