JAZZ? Well swingish perhaps.

[rayc]

I wrote a song...had progression, rough melody & lyrics sorted.

Here's the finished "rock" version...


AND here is the finished "jazz" version...


I heard it as a 100 bpm vaguely rocky thing but the vocalist heard it as jazzier.
To accommodate her I'm trying to build a jazzier backing.
The rock version is played by me but for the organ & drums

jstwrock.mp3

while the jazzier is all BIAB

JSTWhornharm.mp3

[CrowsofFritz]

Niceeee. Is that horn a sampler? Sounds very real.

[rayc]

Actual recordings of horns - ranging from one to eight bars in length and assembled by the program.

[JD01]

Jesus fuck. Get rid of the vegas lounge music. Keep your original.
Kick is weird on it though. Sounds totally disconnected to the rest of the music.

[vomitHatSteve]

Jesus fuck. Get rid of the vegas lounge music. Keep your original.
Kick is weird on it though. Sounds totally disconnected to the rest of the music.

I hear what JD's saying about the kick on the rock version. It really is popping out.

[rayc]

The rock kick...it's half way through being tweaked...I stopped bothering because of the desire for lounge wear.
There's a diff in taste between me & she.

[Armistice]

She sounds a bit like a slightly lower pitch Debbie Harry. I think the song would suit a jazzier arrangement, but I don't think the BIAB special is quite it... and you'd need to chuck in a few jazzier chords for it to work at all.

For reasons unknown, I get BIAB ads in my facebook feed quite regularly now.

[rayc]

She sounds a bit like a slightly lower pitch Debbie Harry. I think the song would suit a jazzier arrangement, but I don't think the BIAB special is quite it... and you'd need to chuck in a few jazzier chords for it to work at all.

For reasons unknown, I get BIAB ads in my facebook feed quite regularly now.

Despite being written by a jazz player the program stealthily simplifies chord - I mean it does do a pop up to say it's doing it but in the bottom right corner and translucent.
Chord wise it's A, Am, Bm, C#m D E & Em F# and G# - def non jazz. I can pull up a jazzier piano BUT it doesn't support the melody well - even now it's a bit off and hence buried.
The singer is 64. She took my minimalist melody, (the beginning and end lines in both chorus n verse with a lot of faff in between), to a more melodic level.
I will experiment with jazzier voicings...I stuck with chords I could easily play when writing it.

Oddly I don't get any BIAB ads - probably becasue I'm not a target for future custom.

[TripleM]

Of the two, I like the rock style better. But the sound quality of the lounge version, I thought, was better.

The brushes in the lounge version are too loud IMO. I thought the reverb on its vocal sounded good, but it was a bit too heavy. Those vocals are really clear.

The low end of the rock version is dominated by the kick. The bass is really tough to hear sometimes. A couple of minor pitch issues.

[CeeBee]

@rayc You probably already know this, but you can jazz up or jazz down chords in BiaB.
Edit/Chords (w)/'Jazz Up' the chords...
I prefer the rock version as well, it's a nice contrast to her sweet sugary drawl.

[CrowsofFritz]

I guess I’m the odd one out in liking the jazz version more. I love jazz.

[CrowsofFritz]

Though I must say, that vocal recording sounds like it was recorded in a literal echo chamber. Don’t know how I feel about it because the rest of the song doesn’t have that reverberation.

[rayc]

Though I must say, that vocal recording sounds like it was recorded in a literal echo chamber. Don’t know how I feel about it because the rest of the song doesn’t have that reverberation.

That's delay on the vocal chorus, (excessive I agree), otherwise the reverb is bused for the other instruments.

[stratmonkee]

Very much prefer the "rock" version. I too get a sultry Debra Harry/Blondie vibe, very cool!

[rayc]

"rock" version finished.

[Lt. Bob]

Jesus fuck. Get rid of the vegas lounge music. Keep your original.

jesus fuck .... broaden your horizons some

[JD01]

Listening to the finished rock version Ray, sounds good this - I can't remember what I was listening to before when I mentioned the weird kick, but this fits in really nicely. She's a good singer this one - sounds like she's actually a singer rather than just someone who can sing a bit!

jesus fuck .... broaden your horizons some
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haha, I like my horizons.

[Greg_L]

I think the "jazz" version is better. Her voice suits it better. It's just a better total package.

The "rock" version 1) doesn't really rock at all, and 2) the melody is strange and meandering.

[Lt. Bob]

haha, I like my horizons.

that's all that matters ....

[rayc]

Thanks gents, "rock" was better that "the other version" but it certainly doesn't kick along.
As to the "rock" vocal, I'm not sure why she wanted to do a different one for it but there ya go she wanted to. I had mixed it with the original vocal & quite liked it.