First toan....Just to break the ice.

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OK, here's something I'm working on. I'm using mostly crunchy tones. I didn't want full on distortion, but I also didn't want "Beatles clean", even though it might be a bit of a Beatlish riff.

I actually used my Strat for this on the main riff.

So we have:

Main riff: Strat neck pick up.
Left rtythm: EPi SG neck pick up.
Right rythm: Gibson SG neck pick up.

Tell me if it works when you all get around to settling in and listening.

https://ramirami.com/files/272180/star- ... ne-eye.mp3
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Sounds great Rami. No prob with the tones for me.

So here's another with, for me, a strange count during what I guess are the verses? I can play along to it lap drumming, but what the hell time sig is that? Is that like 7/8 or something?
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(Another thread that doesn't have the "Quick reply" option. Some do, some don't. I don't get it)

Thanx man. No, it's all 4/4. The stumbling drum beat might make it sounds like it's odd time, but you can play a straight 4/4 beat to it.

Those crunchy tones are ok? Cool.
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rammer24 wrote:(Another thread that doesn't have the "Quick reply" option. Some do, some don't. I don't get it)

Thanx man. No, it's all 4/4. The stumbling drum beat might make it sounds like it's odd time, but you can play a straight 4/4 beat to it.

Those crunchy tones are ok? Cool.
You've mastered quirky drums over a basic beat. I totally hear it now...I think. Very cool.

Yeah the tones are fine to me. No problem.
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Tones are nice and crunchy, doesn't sound like neck pickups on the main rhythm, bass is nice and tight but has solid bottom to it.
Drums are perfect as always :)
I'm still on headset which is bass light but it sounds okay.
You can here the neck "sound" on the riff at 1:40? That for me could come up a hair.
There seems to be a flat note (1:53) it's so subtle though it might be okay after vocals are in.
Nice progression, I can almost hear you singing this already - it's a good one :)
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Thanx Ido. I already have lyrics and melody written for this. There are going to be a lot of back vocals, maybe a little Queen/Beatle-ish.

I'm not sure if that note is flat. The chord goes from a major ro a minor, so I think you're hearing me go from the major third to the minor third. Having said that, I have been having some trouble with tuning on my EPI, so it's possible something's a little out of tune.
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Tones sound good Rami...The only thing I have a problem with are the drums, because I can't play 'em anywhere near your ability... :mrgreen:
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It sounds good to me and definitely has the signature Rami tone going on.
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ocnor wrote: has the signature Rami tone going on.
You guys keep saying that. I'm beginning to wonder if you're insulting me behind my back right to my face. :D
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rammer24 wrote:
ocnor wrote: has the signature Rami tone going on.
You guys keep saying that. I'm beginning to wonder if you're insulting me behind my back right to my face. :D
Oh shit! I think that he's on to us.
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rammer24 wrote:
ocnor wrote: has the signature Rami tone going on.
You guys keep saying that. I'm beginning to wonder if you're insulting me behind my back right to my face. :D
Lol you do have a signature sound. That's a great thing. It's how you hold the pick, how you fret and chord, how you dial in your sounds. Everything about all of your sounds and songs is very Rami. I bet I could pick one of your songs out in a blind test without even hearing the vocals. You've achieved what everyone should really want for themselves.
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That's pretty cool. Thanx.

I guess each person's style comes down to how all their hundreds/thousands of influences end up getting mixed together subconsciously when they write and play.

Even though I started playing drums when I was 11, I was a guitar player at heart. I would spend hours air guitaring, as if I was on stage, to whatever favorite album I was listening to at the time.

I can air guitar so many classic albums to the tee. Every single note. :D

I never air drummed.
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rammer24 wrote:That's pretty cool. Thanx.

I guess each person's style comes down to how all their hundreds/thousands of influences end up getting mixed together subconsciously when they write and play.

Even though I started playing drums when I was 11, I was a guitar player at heart. I would spend hours air guitaring, as if I was on stage, to whatever favorite album I was listening to at the time.

I can air guitar so many classic albums to the tee. Every single note. :D

I never air drummed.
No one air drums, it's all about thigh drums.
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working from home today so just got to listen to this on my proper headphones.

There's nothing wrong with the tones at all - sound great. And it does sound like a typical rami tune.
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I've got to reiterate the fact that the rhythms are great. They sound like they are using the bridge pickups - mainly because they have that bite and the clarity/highend I associate with those pickups.
Are you boosting the treble on your rig for this? And, on another vein, do you roll back your volume/tone knobs on yours (my bridge pickup is brutally piercing so I roll back both).
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Rami,
Sounds cool, crunchy & yes, a little Beatlish.
What happened at 54 secs and 1.43 as well I think. Obviously a deliberate hole in the tapestry - sounds odd in headphones is all.
I look forward to hearing more.
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ido1957 wrote:I've got to reiterate the fact that the rhythms are great. They sound like they are using the bridge pickups - mainly because they have that bite and the clarity/highend I associate with those pickups.
Are you boosting the treble on your rig for this? And, on another vein, do you roll back your volume/tone knobs on yours (my bridge pickup is brutally piercing so I roll back both).
Hey Ido, No I don't boost the highs. It might just be the sound I'm using that allows the neck pick-ups to not be too dark. I don't know, but it's my Fender Super Champ X2 amp, using a "Vox" patch. I sometimes do roll back the volume knob on my guitar, but not in this song. It is something I've done in recent songs and I am doing more often lately, though.
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rayc wrote:Rami,
Sounds cool, crunchy & yes, a little Beatlish.
What happened at 54 secs and 1.43 as well I think. Obviously a deliberate hole in the tapestry - sounds odd in headphones is all.
I look forward to hearing more.
Thanx Ray. Not sure what you're talking about at those 2 points. All I can hear that you might be referring to is that the chord goes from a major to a minor. Is that what you mean?
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Rami - quiet spots - like neither guitar is playing for a moment - or a blip in the system.
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Oh, I see. I'll check it out later. It must only be on the MP3 I uploaded, because there are no blips in REAPER. Something must have happened during transfer and I didn't listen to the MP3 before uploadeing. I'll check it out later and re-upload if need be. Thanx a lot.
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