Suck It In - 1st Mix

[rammer24]

I just took a look. If you use "REAVERB", you have "Pre-verb" at the bottom.

[JD01]

I use Reaverb, but there's no pre-delay option, just a pre-reverb which added a slightly weird effect which you can hear on mix 2.

[Greg_L]

pre-verb is not what he needs though. He needs pre-delay and reaverb doesn't do it. When using impulses in reaverb, the pre-delay is built in to the the impulse reverb. You have to choose the right impulse.

[rammer24]

pre-verb is not what he needs though. He needs pre-delay and reaverb doesn't do it.

Ah sorry. I don't use "REAVERB", but I have it, so I thought Pre-verb was Pre-delay. My wrong.

In that case, I would suggest getting SIR. It's also an impulse response prcocessor, but it has pre-delay, an EQ section, and generally more parameters to play with.

And it's free:

http://www.siraudiotools.com/sir1.php

[Greg_L]

Yessir, SIR is good.

[JD01]

pre-verb is not what he needs though. He needs pre-delay and reaverb doesn't do it. When using impulses in reaverb, the pre-delay is built in to the the impulse reverb. You have to choose the right impulse.

Ah... before I go through every impulse in the Lexicon... is there an impulse with pre-delay on it in there?

[JD01]

pre-verb is not what he needs though. He needs pre-delay and reaverb doesn't do it.

Ah sorry. I don't use "REAVERB", but I have it, so I thought Pre-verb was Pre-delay. My wrong.

In that case, I would suggest getting SIR. It's also an impulse response prcocessor, but it has pre-delay and an EQ section.

And it's free:

http://www.siraudiotools.com/sir1.php

Ah, Cheers Rami. I'll take a look in a bit.

[Greg_L]

pre-verb is not what he needs though. He needs pre-delay and reaverb doesn't do it. When using impulses in reaverb, the pre-delay is built in to the the impulse reverb. You have to choose the right impulse.

Ah... before I go through every impulse in the Lexicon... is there an impulse with pre-delay on it in there?

Yup, lots of them. Go through them and find them!

[rammer24]

Ah... before I go through every impulse in the Lexicon... is there an impulse with pre-delay on it in there?

Check my link a few posts up. You don't necessarilly need an impulse that has it. You need a processor that has it. That way you can put pre-delay on any impulse you want to put it on.

[JD01]

Ah... before I go through every impulse in the Lexicon... is there an impulse with pre-delay on it in there?

Yup, lots of them. Go through them and find them!

Cheers, I'll have a search in a bit.

[JD01]

Ah... before I go through every impulse in the Lexicon... is there an impulse with pre-delay on it in there?

Check my link a few posts up. You don't necessarilly need an impulse that has it. You need a processor that has it. That way you can put pre-delay on any impulse you want to put it on.

Thanks rami, I'll download this later this afternoon.

[Greg_L]

They really need to update the looks of the SIR. It looks like something from a 1988 Nintendo game.

[rammer24]

They really need to update the looks of the SIR. It looks like something from a 1988 Nintendo game.

It's true. It's been like that since it came out. I think SIR II (2) looks exactly the same.

[Armistice]

Sounds pretty good to me JDude - vocal's a little "overwrought" for mine, but that's not a mix thing - bit more anger, bit less angst?

I'd perhaps duck the rhythm guitars when the solo plays, just a touch. And like bubba said, fade the end a bit better.

Good stuff!

[ido1957]

Great rocker... Mix 4 is best so far, the collab parts worked out great imho. The vocals are still a bit low in the verses/chorus and need more pre-delay. That vocal focused part later on is a nice touch for the song. The changes to the drums made a good difference. Just a thought - not sure what type of reverb on vocal but I found a plate reverb cleaner and clearer but still wet sounding. Mine has a predelay of 30 ms.

[JD01]

I just tried that SIR plugin. Version 1 won't work with 64 bit and version 2 is paid for. Bugger

[rammer24]

I just tried that SIR plugin. Version 1 won't work with 64 bit and version 2 is paid for. Bugger

Well that sucks. SIR is better than Reaverb in my opinion, mainly because you can change the envelope of the reverb, as well as the pre-delay. So, you're not limited to reverbs that already have pre-delay or have a certain decay length, etc....You can choose your reverbs based on the sound you're looking for.

Now that I think of it, this is the reason I stayed with 32 bit when I bought a new computer a couple of years ago. I installed REAPER 64 bit, but half my plugs didn't work with it. So, I just stayed with 32 bit. I challenge anyone to hear the difference.

[JD01]

I didn't have any preference so just downloaded that latest version of Reaper. I've only got a few plugins though aside from the ones that come with reaper.

[rayc]

My record comp is 32 because it's XP.

[Bubba]

32-bit plugins work fine with 64-bit Reaper. There's just the issue of the slightly annoying bridging windows that float about.