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Lol good gawd dude. Pretty bad ass. :coolstorybro: :coolstorybro:
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Nice, Tadpui! Looks like fun!
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RME is rock solid. Never had a moment's trouble with my interface. Nice work!
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Greg_L wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:06 am Lol good gawd dude. Pretty bad ass. :coolstorybro: :coolstorybro:
CrowsofFritz wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:09 am Nice, Tadpui! Looks like fun!
Thanks fellas :) I'm sure my wife won't mind a bright orange fiber cable running up the stairs, up the other stairs, through the entryway and into our living room...right? :D :D :D

I at least plan on spooling it back up when I'm not using it...I'm already shopping for cable spoolers ;)

I keep laughing thinking about this bit about long-ass wire from SNL's Black Jeopardy: https://youtu.be/AX7rliyPF48?t=199
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Armistice wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:38 am RME is rock solid. Never had a moment's trouble with my interface. Nice work!
I agree! RME earned my trust after 7 years with my FireFace UCX. Their drivers, reliability, and packed features really have made me a fanboy. That interface has never let me down, and I'm expecting the same from this setup as well!

Although my UCX must have been defective...yours always sounded better. Oh wait, that must be on the input side :D
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Way cool. Money on good tools is NEVER wasted. What is wasted is time not using them.
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Fucking hell, Tadpui. Youve really gone to town on this.
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Tadpui wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:42 am

Thanks fellas :) I'm sure my wife won't mind a bright orange fiber cable running up the stairs, up the other stairs, through the entryway and into our living room...right? :D :D :D

I at least plan on spooling it back up when I'm not using it...I'm already shopping for cable spoolers ;)

I keep laughing thinking about this bit about long-ass wire from SNL's Black Jeopardy: https://youtu.be/AX7rliyPF48?t=199
What happened to drilling a hole through the floor/ceiling?
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Also, is your patchbay normaled, half normaled, or non normaled, @Tadpui ? I’m planing on making mine non normaled.
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Yeah and please explain the signal flow going on with all this new stuff. How do you control it and how are you seeing what you're doing from upstairs at the drums?
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muttley wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:50 am Way cool. Money on good tools is NEVER wasted. What is wasted is time not using them.
Thanks Mutt, I agree. I plan to get many years of use out of these things!
JD01 wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:13 am Fucking hell, Tadpui. Youve really gone to town on this.
I really did. I was actually nauseous the day after I pulled the trigger. I felt guilty. I think I've come to terms with it, and I'll be sure to put everything to good use.
Greg_L wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:14 am What happened to drilling a hole through the floor/ceiling?
I'm considering that as phase II of this operation. For now, I'll drag the cable around. Once I'm tired of that, I'll either go through the floor (I found the hole where the coax cable used to go) or I'll try to go up through the wall and make some sort of wall plate to make it look tidy.

Phase 3 is just finishing the damned basement and having a proper studio room again, like I had in KC. But that'll require some saving up, and we've got a few things to tick off of the to-do list on the house before we'll end up with the kind of cash it'll take to make the basement fully waterproof and finished out. This is kind of a stop-gap solution.
CrowsofFritz wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:06 am Also, is your patchbay normaled, half normaled, or non normaled, @Tadpui ? I’m planing on making mine non normaled.
All of the slots in my patchbay are currently normal. If my patchbay had a through option, I'd probably use that so I could stuff more connections into it without forming feedback loops. But mine is only through if all 4 jacks of a slot are occupied by cables. I'm actually already eyeing a 2nd patchbay, since I've got more usable analog ins and outs with this interface compared to my UCX, and my patchbay is at capacity. Fortunately that isn't a very big investment, unless I want a fancier patchbay with TT patch points and d-sub connectors on the back (which I really do...but damn those things are $1000 so that'll have to wait). Eventually I want to replace my ADA8200 ADAT with a Ferrofish Pulse 16 so I can use both sets of ADAT
ins and outs on my interface, and I'll never want for patch points again :)
Greg_L wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:22 am Yeah and please explain the signal flow going on with all this new stuff. How do you control it and how are you seeing what you're doing from upstairs at the drums?
So the 12Mic is just an expansion for the interface. Just like an ADAT preamp, except it uses a protocol called MADI instead of ADAT, which can carry up to 64 inputs and 64 outputs at 44.1 or 48K (or 32 channels at 96K, or 16 channels at 192K). The 12Mic only uses 12 of those inputs and 2 outputs (as a stereo return to run the headphones). The fiberoptic connection can actually support a distance of up to 2 kilometers! Fortunately I don't need to run it down the street or anything like that :)

The 12Mic also supports a cool protocol called AVB, which essentially establishes an audio network on a normal home network, but I didn't opt for an interface that supports that. So I'll just be using it as a MADI expansion for my interface.

As far as running the computer and interface, I have a tablet/laptop next to me at the drum kit. From there I can run TotalMix Remote, which allows me to directly interact with TotalMix that's running on my studio computer. TotalMix is RME's routing software for their interfaces. I can set preamp gains, set up cue mixes, adjust playback volume, etc. from there.

And as far as running the DAW, I'll be using Reaper's web remote for transport controls, arm/disarm tracks, adjusting faders, etc.

If that gets too cumbersome, or if I need to fiddle with something that the web remote or TotalMix remote can't do, I can also use Remote Desktop to just remote directly into my computer downstairs and it operates just as if I'm sitting in front of that computer.

And the ARC USB can actually plug into any computer on a network and control TotalMix on any other computer on the network. But I just have it plugged directly into my interface for now. I mainly just use it as a monitor controller and headphone volume, but it can do all sorts of other cool stuff.
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@Tadpui

Wow, that is really advanced and my mind is officially melted. Really cool. There's no way I could pull any of that off.
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Greg_L wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:42 pm @Tadpui

Wow, that is really advanced and my mind is officially melted. Really cool. There's no way I could pull any of that off.
The sad part is that this stuff can do way more than I'll probably ever touch. I'll probably be leaving a lot of stuff on the table once I get it all set up to do what I want/need.

Anyways, the wife is working tonight so I'm going to go clutter up the living room with microphones, stands, and cables and give this thing its first official workout :D :illdrinktothat:
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Tadpui wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:57 pm
Greg_L wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:42 pm @Tadpui

Wow, that is really advanced and my mind is officially melted. Really cool. There's no way I could pull any of that off.
The sad part is that this stuff can do way more than I'll probably ever touch. I'll probably be leaving a lot of stuff on the table once I get it all set up to do what I want/need.

Anyways, the wife is working tonight so I'm going to go clutter up the living room with microphones, stands, and cables and give this thing its first official workout :D :illdrinktothat:
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I got it all plugged in and running. I've never done a snare bottom, XY overheads, spaced pair room mics, or mono 3rd room mic before, so I've got lots of dialing in and tweaking to do. I haven't even checked most of it for phase yet. But I just HAD to fill all 12 channels :D

Hopefully I'll have some sound bytes tomorrow.
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Fuck yeah!

Don't forget kick beater, kick inside, kick outside.
Toms top and bottom.

You aint done yet!
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Greg_L wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:53 am Fuck yeah!

Don't forget kick beater, kick inside, kick outside.
Toms top and bottom.

You aint done yet!
I got the kick in and kick out covered. I thought about tom bottoms, but I don't have enough mics for it! I'd have to use condensers, but I can give it a whirl. And I think tomorrow I might try swapping my kick in for a batter-side position and see what happens. I love the way the outside kick mic sounds, and I'm mild about how my inside kick mic sounds.

I'm excited about all of the possibilities! And I'm probably going to need some hefty coaching :)
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Really looking forward to hearing how you get on with this. I still really want to try micing drums properly myself.
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Holy shit!!!!!

That set up is something else!!! Wow .

Pleaae telk me you are making a video about all this.
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Holy shit @Tadpui ! Awesome! I don’t know wtf any of that means, but it sure sounds nerdy and baller!
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