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Mersey Me! That's a cool song and the 2nd mix is better.
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rayc wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:19 am Mersey Me! That's a cool song and the 2nd mix is better.
Cheers Ray. Its a relatively oldie for me. Written and recorded in 2009.
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Huh. So I was in a meeting when I checked this thread yesterday and couldn't actually listen.

The ARC mix of the first song is way wider than the original. Is it just applying EQ, or is it doing some other treatment?
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vomitHatSteve wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:41 am Huh. So I was in a meeting when I checked this thread yesterday and couldn't actually listen.

The ARC mix of the first song is way wider than the original. Is it just applying EQ, or is it doing some other treatment?
The ARC system doesn't apply anything to the actual mix. It just changes the sound I hear in the room so I can mix with a flatter, clearer and more balanced soundscape. How well it works, time will tell. I need a bit of practise with it. Flicking the correction on and off is very fatiguing on the ear but the sound difference in the room is completely different between the two. I'll try and do a little video later and see if you can hear what I mean.
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Mr Clean wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 1:57 pm
vomitHatSteve wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:41 am Huh. So I was in a meeting when I checked this thread yesterday and couldn't actually listen.

The ARC mix of the first song is way wider than the original. Is it just applying EQ, or is it doing some other treatment?
The ARC system doesn't apply anything to the actual mix. It just changes the sound I hear in the room so I can mix with a flatter, clearer and more balanced soundscape. How well it works, time will tell. I need a bit of practise with it. Flicking the correction on and off is very fatiguing on the ear but the sound difference in the room is completely different between the two. I'll try and do a little video later and see if you can hear what I mean.
ah .... it's kinda like the plug ins I have for various studio mixing rooms that I can use with certain headphones .... of which I have a couple.
I listen in a different environment but it doesn't change the mix
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Lt. Bob wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 2:04 pm ah .... it's kinda like the plug ins I have for various studio mixing rooms that I can use with certain headphones .... of which I have a couple.
I listen in a different environment but it doesn't change the mix
Exactly that but a hardware version. Once set up it doesn't even have to be connected to the computer. It runs between you soundcard output and speakers. If you keep it connected to the computer you can change settings and mimic other set ups on the fly if you choose.
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I'm not sure how well this will come across as it is video from my phone but it'll give you an idea of what I hear.


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vomitHatSteve wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:41 am Huh. So I was in a meeting when I checked this thread yesterday and couldn't actually listen.

The ARC mix of the first song is way wider than the original. Is it just applying EQ, or is it doing some other treatment?
It's gotta be doing some mid/side thing. I hear it that way too
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Greg_L wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:13 am
vomitHatSteve wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:41 am Huh. So I was in a meeting when I checked this thread yesterday and couldn't actually listen.

The ARC mix of the first song is way wider than the original. Is it just applying EQ, or is it doing some other treatment?
It's gotta be doing some mid/side thing. I hear it that way too
It doesn't add to or alter anything other than what I hear in the room.
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So you mixed the ARC mix wider?
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Greg_L wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:50 am So you mixed the ARC mix wider?
The only thing I have changed is the levels of the tracks and EQ on tracks I felt needed it. The actual recorded files, panning, etc, are all the same.

The ARC has no influence on the sound that is put out from the DAW, it literally just changes what I hear in the room. I have it set to a flat kind of sound and it helps to hear things in the mix much better. It's really good, so far, in my opinion.
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does it use a calibrated mic to determine what your room does so it can compensate to give you a flat monitor?

Did you already explain this and I missed it?
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Lt. Bob wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:17 pm does it use a calibrated mic to determine what your room does so it can compensate to give you a flat monitor?

Did you already explain this and I missed it?
It should. I believe I saw a mic included in the box bundle the Clean got.
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Lt. Bob wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:17 pm does it use a calibrated mic to determine what your room does so it can compensate to give you a flat monitor?

Did you already explain this and I missed it?
Yes, it does. You can purchase the ARC unit without the mic if you already have one from an older release of ARC or purchase it with the mic.

It shows the microphone on the box. :coolstorybro:

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I'd missed this... but I think I'd like it.
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JD01 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:06 pm I'd missed this... but I think I'd like it.
It's a really clever piece of kit. Search it up on Youtube and you'll find lots of interesting videos on it. I still use an old 90s Wharfedale Amp and Speakers for audio in my room, which is roughly 4x4 metres square and have zero treatment as there just isn't room for any. Luckily, the room is full of stuff though. Guitars cases in the corners, Bookshelves full of books, a until full of records, a huge electric piano. The room is pretty dead for reverberations but the bass was a bastard but I now this system so well and if it ain't broke. :k:

The ARC unit helped me with the low end. It took some getting used to the sound that it produces compared to not using it but it works really well. As well as correcting for your speakers and room, you can also imitate other systems and set ups using the in built options which is really good. So you kind of get an idea of how you mix will translate across platforms. Very handy.

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